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07-10 06:17 PM
PM me, I can send you conference call details
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Vipps
07-20 02:43 AM
$100 ,Please work out the financial-mechanics as well.....Ready to contribute more in coming months if the objective of this thread is not accomplished in this drive.
I will be doing R2I sooner, yet i feel guilty after reading that article.
I will be doing R2I sooner, yet i feel guilty after reading that article.
Jimi_Hendrix
10-27 02:00 PM
is going to be very short. Therefore we should not have high hopes of getting things through in this session. This is a long fight so keep persevering and keep up the hopes.
On a separate note, there is no point in engaging in any conversation with these gentlemen who continue to post nonsensical statements. I have reported them to the moderator.
On a separate note, there is no point in engaging in any conversation with these gentlemen who continue to post nonsensical statements. I have reported them to the moderator.
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english_august
07-09 11:12 AM
I found this in the one of the forums.. please people contact the report have people hear us.
Story for the Washington Post
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Hi all,
I'm a reporter with the Washington Post. If your efforts result in Emilio Gonzalez receiving hundreds of flowers tomorrow, I would very much like to do a story on it. If you're interested in speaking with me and telling me your story and why you've decided to participate in this demonstration, please give me an email or call me. My contact information is below.
Thanks!
Xiyun
email:yangx@washpost.com
office phone: 202 334 6701
I just spoke with her. Please call her with your story as well. The more the better.
Story for the Washington Post
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Hi all,
I'm a reporter with the Washington Post. If your efforts result in Emilio Gonzalez receiving hundreds of flowers tomorrow, I would very much like to do a story on it. If you're interested in speaking with me and telling me your story and why you've decided to participate in this demonstration, please give me an email or call me. My contact information is below.
Thanks!
Xiyun
email:yangx@washpost.com
office phone: 202 334 6701
I just spoke with her. Please call her with your story as well. The more the better.
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abq_gc
08-18 02:44 PM
How do you know that people with more recent priority dates are getting approved and you have been left out? You know this because these members of IV share this info with you and you are talking about using this info against them.
I won't be surprised if this will discourage people to just silently leave the forum after getting approvals.
well if they want to do that.. they can do that... wont discourage us from fighting this injustice against everyone in the legal immigration community... i for one consider the plight of EB-3 at this time to be more than that of EB-2... but why are just fighting among ourselves... instead of doing something as a group ??
I won't be surprised if this will discourage people to just silently leave the forum after getting approvals.
well if they want to do that.. they can do that... wont discourage us from fighting this injustice against everyone in the legal immigration community... i for one consider the plight of EB-3 at this time to be more than that of EB-2... but why are just fighting among ourselves... instead of doing something as a group ??
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chmur
07-27 06:28 PM
Chmur; I appreciate your post. For the sake of a discussion could you share what is the temporary relief that you are seeking. I am curious to know the details. Is it
1. Revert back to the vertical spillover rule. OR
2. Revert back to vertical spillover rule and after EB3-ROW becomes current split the visas equally between EB2-I and EB3-I OR
3. Keep the horizontal spill over in place but any spill over from EB2 ROW should go equally to EB2-Retro and EB3 (ROW and Retro) category.
Let me offer my answers to the questions above:
1. In this case EB3-I is no better off as EB3ROW and EB2-I has to become current before any excess visas can go to EB3-I.
2. Completely negates the categorization as laid out by law after the initial handout is done equally. Is a hybrid approach where the vertical rule would be enforced so long as EB2 and EB3 (both ROW) are current. But after that a selective interpretation of the vertical rule is sought where EB2-I and EB3-I share it equally. The basis of this selective interpretation appears to be length of wait - nowhere does the INA state that length of wait can be used as a basis for negating categorization of EB category.
3. Is against the law - read my earlier post. Again selectively uses horizontal spill over till EB2 ROW demand is satisfied and then use vertical spill over to share visas between EB2-Retro and EB3 category.
I completely respect your right to lobby for change. However I am a little baffled as to how this change can be sought without changing law. Even if the change is approved, I see a strong possibility of a counter EB2 movement to nullify this change. I would appreciate any details from you anybody else on this. Cheers
None ....
Eb3-I has to explain it's position and request DOS to suggest an alternative method to mitigate the starving under the given laws.
As suggested earlier which requires change in law and which does not is not clear to any of us. DOS itself has had contradictory implementations over the years.
I am baffled that you think anyone of us can actually dictate DOS what to do.
1. Revert back to the vertical spillover rule. OR
2. Revert back to vertical spillover rule and after EB3-ROW becomes current split the visas equally between EB2-I and EB3-I OR
3. Keep the horizontal spill over in place but any spill over from EB2 ROW should go equally to EB2-Retro and EB3 (ROW and Retro) category.
Let me offer my answers to the questions above:
1. In this case EB3-I is no better off as EB3ROW and EB2-I has to become current before any excess visas can go to EB3-I.
2. Completely negates the categorization as laid out by law after the initial handout is done equally. Is a hybrid approach where the vertical rule would be enforced so long as EB2 and EB3 (both ROW) are current. But after that a selective interpretation of the vertical rule is sought where EB2-I and EB3-I share it equally. The basis of this selective interpretation appears to be length of wait - nowhere does the INA state that length of wait can be used as a basis for negating categorization of EB category.
3. Is against the law - read my earlier post. Again selectively uses horizontal spill over till EB2 ROW demand is satisfied and then use vertical spill over to share visas between EB2-Retro and EB3 category.
I completely respect your right to lobby for change. However I am a little baffled as to how this change can be sought without changing law. Even if the change is approved, I see a strong possibility of a counter EB2 movement to nullify this change. I would appreciate any details from you anybody else on this. Cheers
None ....
Eb3-I has to explain it's position and request DOS to suggest an alternative method to mitigate the starving under the given laws.
As suggested earlier which requires change in law and which does not is not clear to any of us. DOS itself has had contradictory implementations over the years.
I am baffled that you think anyone of us can actually dictate DOS what to do.
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danielp78
06-15 09:06 AM
My lawyer sent the applications on June 1st and we have the receipts already. They cashed the checks by June 6th.
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abq_gc
08-20 11:57 AM
I guess, its fair to assume that all of our applications have been really transferred to TSC. Please keep on updating as soon as you guys get a receipt notice or yur checks get encashed.
Thanks,
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07-02 08:49 AM
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va_il
05-02 12:29 PM
mrajatish is right.
Also, if you have an advanced degree from an acredited university outside US AND have been working for 3 years in a related field, you will also be exempt from the cap regardless of whether you are applying/have applied in EB2 or EB3 (believe me...you would think that people with advanced degrees would have applied in EB2...but there are cases where people have had to apply in EB3 category even with an advanced degree).
I am not sure about that. Most of the EB3 guys have advance degrees (including me) but not necessarily with US degrees.
Also, if you have an advanced degree from an acredited university outside US AND have been working for 3 years in a related field, you will also be exempt from the cap regardless of whether you are applying/have applied in EB2 or EB3 (believe me...you would think that people with advanced degrees would have applied in EB2...but there are cases where people have had to apply in EB3 category even with an advanced degree).
I am not sure about that. Most of the EB3 guys have advance degrees (including me) but not necessarily with US degrees.
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ita
02-09 02:51 PM
All the Best Chantu...hope you'll get job soon.
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PD_Dec2002
07-07 08:53 PM
she said "But we're prepared to talk to people about what happened here."
hope that means they are willing to talk about giving EAD. If we get EAD all the lawsuits will be withdrawn. The law does not say AOS applications should not be accepted when there are no visa numbers available, the law only says AOS cannot be approved when visa numbers are not available. USCIS internal regulations says they will not accept AOS applications when priority date is not current. by now its quite apparent that USCIS has broken a lot of there own internal regulations just to make sure the visa numbers are used up before july 2 2007. Then can easily accomodate the EAD for july filers. It all depends upon the pressure exerted on USCIS and DOS
My interpretation of "But we're prepared to talk to people about what happened here." is "We know what we did. And if you take us to court, we are prepared to talk our way out of this fiasco."
Between the Iraq war and tensions in the mid-East, she will actually welcome such easy battles. This administration is extremely smug.
Thanks,
Jayant
hope that means they are willing to talk about giving EAD. If we get EAD all the lawsuits will be withdrawn. The law does not say AOS applications should not be accepted when there are no visa numbers available, the law only says AOS cannot be approved when visa numbers are not available. USCIS internal regulations says they will not accept AOS applications when priority date is not current. by now its quite apparent that USCIS has broken a lot of there own internal regulations just to make sure the visa numbers are used up before july 2 2007. Then can easily accomodate the EAD for july filers. It all depends upon the pressure exerted on USCIS and DOS
My interpretation of "But we're prepared to talk to people about what happened here." is "We know what we did. And if you take us to court, we are prepared to talk our way out of this fiasco."
Between the Iraq war and tensions in the mid-East, she will actually welcome such easy battles. This administration is extremely smug.
Thanks,
Jayant
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ssa
07-28 12:47 PM
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
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Kushal
07-07 10:32 PM
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Just came back, here is my report:
- There were five Chinese and seven Indian people at the march. It was small fun group.
- The group was small but the outcome as you will note from my report below was productive
- Fighnow, who is the Chinese member of mitbbs.com had initiated this 7th July march. Due to short notice we couldn't publicize this event but still it was good to see a bunch of people show up.
- Fightnow and his friends were fully prepared with big banners and all, with appropriate slogans
- In the beginning there was some police presence but they left an hour later, I guess because of a small group
- We carried our placards and banners on the sidewalk and got lot of "honk" support from people driving by.
- Luckily a Chinese TV station happened to be in the area and interviewed many of us. The station is called KCSN 30, if I remember correctly and this news story will air on Monday evening in Bay area. I will post details about this after hearing from fightnow.
- The parking is free on weekends.
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What we need to do is:
- Organize a bigger march on 14th July
- Organize a similar event in DC if possible to get more mileage
- Prepare some banners and placards etc.
- Bring water, it was warm
- Have fun
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Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions
Congratulation for the success today..
Will the next SJ rally be on 14th or 21st Jul?
I live at Walnut Creek, but currently out of town. 21st would be favorable for me, but obviously if you already have people responding for 14th then go ahead by all means..
Just came back, here is my report:
- There were five Chinese and seven Indian people at the march. It was small fun group.
- The group was small but the outcome as you will note from my report below was productive
- Fighnow, who is the Chinese member of mitbbs.com had initiated this 7th July march. Due to short notice we couldn't publicize this event but still it was good to see a bunch of people show up.
- Fightnow and his friends were fully prepared with big banners and all, with appropriate slogans
- In the beginning there was some police presence but they left an hour later, I guess because of a small group
- We carried our placards and banners on the sidewalk and got lot of "honk" support from people driving by.
- Luckily a Chinese TV station happened to be in the area and interviewed many of us. The station is called KCSN 30, if I remember correctly and this news story will air on Monday evening in Bay area. I will post details about this after hearing from fightnow.
- The parking is free on weekends.
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What we need to do is:
- Organize a bigger march on 14th July
- Organize a similar event in DC if possible to get more mileage
- Prepare some banners and placards etc.
- Bring water, it was warm
- Have fun
-----------------
Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions
Congratulation for the success today..
Will the next SJ rally be on 14th or 21st Jul?
I live at Walnut Creek, but currently out of town. 21st would be favorable for me, but obviously if you already have people responding for 14th then go ahead by all means..
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lotres
11-21 03:29 PM
Dear Mehul,
You are a great inspiration of strength to the rest of us, miracles do happen and don't loose hope...my thoughts and prayers are with you!
AS for GC, I have a coworker whose dad, the primary applicant , passed away, and only 1 dependent was able to continue process and just recently got his GC. Most likely, your wife will not be forced to return home.
Stay strong and positive!
You are a great inspiration of strength to the rest of us, miracles do happen and don't loose hope...my thoughts and prayers are with you!
AS for GC, I have a coworker whose dad, the primary applicant , passed away, and only 1 dependent was able to continue process and just recently got his GC. Most likely, your wife will not be forced to return home.
Stay strong and positive!
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Openarms
08-13 02:17 PM
Please follow below thread.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1599562-team-visa-allocation-by-dos-13.html#post1979373
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/forum85-action-items-for-everyone/1599562-team-visa-allocation-by-dos-13.html#post1979373
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neel_gump
07-21 04:44 PM
We, people with EB3-I priority dates in 2002 2003 2004, should not blame others for our problem. The only way out of this mess for us, I think, is to port from EB3 to EB2. We all need to do it before they scrap that law. We are being too loyal to our original employers. Most of us were working for more than 8 years in the same company. It is time to move-on and search for greener pastures. We checked that there are around 20,000 EB3-I applications in front of us. That, @ 3000 applications per year, means more than 6 years of agonizing wait. We are already waiting for 8 years and I don't know whether we can take 6 more. I think only a mass-porting from EB3 to EB2 should be the answer.
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thescadaman
11-17 04:17 PM
done - Thanks!
GCBy3000
05-23 11:50 AM
Sent to all the senators listed and two from my state.
gsc999
07-06 07:22 PM
I saw your earlier post from this thread, where you are asking if it is ok to protest without having a permit. It seems you do not have aproper permit yet.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=98957#post98957
It seems you are member of this Chinese website http://www.mitbbs.com/, we welcome you to Immigration voice. We want to support you in this march but we need to have proper permits. Is it ok to reschedule this to 14th July so that we can gather the necessary permits and also inform all our Bay area members?
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=98957#post98957
It seems you are member of this Chinese website http://www.mitbbs.com/, we welcome you to Immigration voice. We want to support you in this march but we need to have proper permits. Is it ok to reschedule this to 14th July so that we can gather the necessary permits and also inform all our Bay area members?
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